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		By: Jack Brown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2020 01:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sally Arnold - Board Chair of &quot;Friends of the Rail &#038; Trail&quot;, receives praising comment by Barry Scott, member of FORT and paid political lobbyist. Self-serving back pattingThe cost of the current construction of Rail with a Trail is over $5,700 per linear foot. Multiply that out over 32 miles and you have a serious bill on your hands. You can&#039;t get all that money from grants and in the new normal, people are not going to want to be crammed into tight spaces for long periods of time.
These people simply DO.NOT.CARE.ABOUT.A.TRAIL!   Rail is their prerogative and literally will pursue it at all cost. With the type of &quot;streetcar&quot; these people are now advocating, only a few hundred people of the over 50,000 that clog Highway 1 will benefit from what will cost our county over $1,000,000,000 to implement and take decades to get there. They claim $144B is available but it simply isn&#039;t true. Suburban rail is a failure and even rail that should be successful like Metrolink and Caltrain are seeing dire financial situations. 
With the pandemic, wildfire losses and upcoming winter storms wreaking havoc on our road infrastructure, we need to stop the wasteful spending on special interest / developer projects and get real about Bus on Shoulder and fixing the systems we already have and saving the abandoned rail corridor for active transportation. Since the rail groups insist on trying to silence anyone that opposes them, it&#039;s time to remove the incumbents on the County Board of Supervisors and RTC.
Be sure to vote for change this November.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sally Arnold &#8211; Board Chair of &#8220;Friends of the Rail &amp; Trail&#8221;, receives praising comment by Barry Scott, member of FORT and paid political lobbyist. Self-serving back pattingThe cost of the current construction of Rail with a Trail is over $5,700 per linear foot. Multiply that out over 32 miles and you have a serious bill on your hands. You can&#8217;t get all that money from grants and in the new normal, people are not going to want to be crammed into tight spaces for long periods of time.<br />
These people simply DO.NOT.CARE.ABOUT.A.TRAIL!   Rail is their prerogative and literally will pursue it at all cost. With the type of &#8220;streetcar&#8221; these people are now advocating, only a few hundred people of the over 50,000 that clog Highway 1 will benefit from what will cost our county over $1,000,000,000 to implement and take decades to get there. They claim $144B is available but it simply isn&#8217;t true. Suburban rail is a failure and even rail that should be successful like Metrolink and Caltrain are seeing dire financial situations.<br />
With the pandemic, wildfire losses and upcoming winter storms wreaking havoc on our road infrastructure, we need to stop the wasteful spending on special interest / developer projects and get real about Bus on Shoulder and fixing the systems we already have and saving the abandoned rail corridor for active transportation. Since the rail groups insist on trying to silence anyone that opposes them, it&#8217;s time to remove the incumbents on the County Board of Supervisors and RTC.<br />
Be sure to vote for change this November.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2020 07:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;There is one problem that Congressman Sam Farr pointed out to me: there is no money.&quot;--Carey Pico

Well then, by that logic, there is no money for the trail, either.  May as well not do anything at all.  

It will cost money to remove the tracks and build the trail--and you&#039;ll have a corridor of less capacity and less value, not to mention the land ownership problems as easement issues kick in.  

For those who are not familiar with what easements are, they are a type of property lease, allowing one person or entity to cross the property of another person or entity.  They are pretty common for things like pipelines, power lines, and railroads.  

They are also usually pretty specific.  If the use for the easement is removed, the property reverts to the owner.

In this case, the easement agreements are for a railroad.  The agreements do not say they are for a corridor, or a trail.  Take up the tracks, the property goes back to the owners or designated parties in the original agreement.  The right of way, the right for the railroad or the trail, legally goes up in smoke.  

In short, no railroad, no easement, no trail.

Be careful what you wish for.

These things can get expensive.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/was-public-railroaded-in-trail-deal/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is one problem that Congressman Sam Farr pointed out to me: there is no money.&#8221;&#8211;Carey Pico</p>
<p>Well then, by that logic, there is no money for the trail, either.  May as well not do anything at all.  </p>
<p>It will cost money to remove the tracks and build the trail&#8211;and you&#8217;ll have a corridor of less capacity and less value, not to mention the land ownership problems as easement issues kick in.  </p>
<p>For those who are not familiar with what easements are, they are a type of property lease, allowing one person or entity to cross the property of another person or entity.  They are pretty common for things like pipelines, power lines, and railroads.  </p>
<p>They are also usually pretty specific.  If the use for the easement is removed, the property reverts to the owner.</p>
<p>In this case, the easement agreements are for a railroad.  The agreements do not say they are for a corridor, or a trail.  Take up the tracks, the property goes back to the owners or designated parties in the original agreement.  The right of way, the right for the railroad or the trail, legally goes up in smoke.  </p>
<p>In short, no railroad, no easement, no trail.</p>
<p>Be careful what you wish for.</p>
<p>These things can get expensive.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/was-public-railroaded-in-trail-deal/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/was-public-railroaded-in-trail-deal/</a></p>
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		By: carey pico		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2020 03:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a Pollyanna view of a railroad in Santa Cruz.  (And I want a pink pony too!)  There is one problem that Congressman Sam Farr pointed out to me: there is no money.  The RTC&#039;s own study estimates the cost to be $1.12B (billion with a B) to build and run the proposed commuter train.  There&#039;s a reason for lack of funds: Wikipedia list 40 cities with light rail.  All of them are directly in or connected to a population of 1 million.  Santa Cruz... has 274,000 today.  Do you see Santa Cruz at 1 million to afford a train?  I wouldn&#039;t want to live here.

The author writes the train will go to Pajaro.  Bad news.  There is no commuter rail connection there and there won&#039;t be.  The last discussion in February 2020 by the Capitol Corridor board stated &quot;We are not currently planning for a Capitol Corridor train extension to Salinas&quot;, which means no Pajaro connection because... there is no money.  

Another misstatement, &quot;bus options would require tearing up the tracks to build a road, they are very expensive&quot;.  Any potential passenger rail also requires tearing up the tracks for something that can handle the RTC&#039;s proposed 45-60 mph trains through the county.  That&#039;s more expensive.  Don&#039;t ask me, go look at the RTC&#039;s Unified Corridor Investment Study, Appendix B and compare prices.  Train is more.

But the real problem with the train is it is located in residential areas next to the ocean and far from commercial areas that need its proximity.  This is a recipe for failure according to transportation studies.

As to the trail, the RTC told the public that 8 of the 32 planned trail miles were to be completed by 2018.  Do you know how many were completed by then? Zero.  Today a 200 ft long bridge extension over the San Lorenzo river is all that was done.  What about the rest?  No money, wrong plans, and problems.  The first portion to be worked on, 2 miles on the West Side, turned out to be more difficult because the planners forgot to include excavation into account hillsides (what? this is Santa Cruz County).  They reduced the trail to 1.2 miles of flat land.  Whoops, construction bids came in 3 times the amount budgeted.  Move money around and its under construction at $8M per mile... twice the cost of a rural freeway lane.  Today - 10 years after the chance to start building a real rail-trail - just a bridge exists.

Back to the trail, a simple trail could be built with 5 years at 1/4th the cost if the RTC and Friends of the Rail AND Trail would stop pushing to keep the train tracks in place.  The concept is railbanking where the federal government takes stewardship of the rail easement and the county builds a trail.  The RTC is ideologically wedded to a train, so the picture is twist.  They state it would take 10 years to rail bank.  The federal Surface Transportation Board (train regulators) staff attorney told me personally it takes 8 months.  He stated the biggest problem is that, once a municipality railbanks a stretch of rail easement, they don&#039;t have the money to build a trail.  WE HAVE THE MONEY!  $85M.  But it&#039;s being squandered as I write this.  $10M for the 1.2 miles on the west side (of course, Santa Cruz gets theirs before the money runs out).  And that is flat land with no hillsides.  What happens when you hit south of the SL river?

So, the author can write how wonderful life will be with a railroad with connector buses and a trail next to the tracks.  Wont happen.  And time will tick on and money will drain away (already $11M has been spent just on the tracks with another $40M in the actual RTC budget in the next two years) until we all get too tired to remember what we wanted in the first place... a simple trail that we can walk, stroller, bike, or sit along to enjoy (without a 45-60 mph hour train whizzing by).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a Pollyanna view of a railroad in Santa Cruz.  (And I want a pink pony too!)  There is one problem that Congressman Sam Farr pointed out to me: there is no money.  The RTC&#8217;s own study estimates the cost to be $1.12B (billion with a B) to build and run the proposed commuter train.  There&#8217;s a reason for lack of funds: Wikipedia list 40 cities with light rail.  All of them are directly in or connected to a population of 1 million.  Santa Cruz&#8230; has 274,000 today.  Do you see Santa Cruz at 1 million to afford a train?  I wouldn&#8217;t want to live here.</p>
<p>The author writes the train will go to Pajaro.  Bad news.  There is no commuter rail connection there and there won&#8217;t be.  The last discussion in February 2020 by the Capitol Corridor board stated &#8220;We are not currently planning for a Capitol Corridor train extension to Salinas&#8221;, which means no Pajaro connection because&#8230; there is no money.  </p>
<p>Another misstatement, &#8220;bus options would require tearing up the tracks to build a road, they are very expensive&#8221;.  Any potential passenger rail also requires tearing up the tracks for something that can handle the RTC&#8217;s proposed 45-60 mph trains through the county.  That&#8217;s more expensive.  Don&#8217;t ask me, go look at the RTC&#8217;s Unified Corridor Investment Study, Appendix B and compare prices.  Train is more.</p>
<p>But the real problem with the train is it is located in residential areas next to the ocean and far from commercial areas that need its proximity.  This is a recipe for failure according to transportation studies.</p>
<p>As to the trail, the RTC told the public that 8 of the 32 planned trail miles were to be completed by 2018.  Do you know how many were completed by then? Zero.  Today a 200 ft long bridge extension over the San Lorenzo river is all that was done.  What about the rest?  No money, wrong plans, and problems.  The first portion to be worked on, 2 miles on the West Side, turned out to be more difficult because the planners forgot to include excavation into account hillsides (what? this is Santa Cruz County).  They reduced the trail to 1.2 miles of flat land.  Whoops, construction bids came in 3 times the amount budgeted.  Move money around and its under construction at $8M per mile&#8230; twice the cost of a rural freeway lane.  Today &#8211; 10 years after the chance to start building a real rail-trail &#8211; just a bridge exists.</p>
<p>Back to the trail, a simple trail could be built with 5 years at 1/4th the cost if the RTC and Friends of the Rail AND Trail would stop pushing to keep the train tracks in place.  The concept is railbanking where the federal government takes stewardship of the rail easement and the county builds a trail.  The RTC is ideologically wedded to a train, so the picture is twist.  They state it would take 10 years to rail bank.  The federal Surface Transportation Board (train regulators) staff attorney told me personally it takes 8 months.  He stated the biggest problem is that, once a municipality railbanks a stretch of rail easement, they don&#8217;t have the money to build a trail.  WE HAVE THE MONEY!  $85M.  But it&#8217;s being squandered as I write this.  $10M for the 1.2 miles on the west side (of course, Santa Cruz gets theirs before the money runs out).  And that is flat land with no hillsides.  What happens when you hit south of the SL river?</p>
<p>So, the author can write how wonderful life will be with a railroad with connector buses and a trail next to the tracks.  Wont happen.  And time will tick on and money will drain away (already $11M has been spent just on the tracks with another $40M in the actual RTC budget in the next two years) until we all get too tired to remember what we wanted in the first place&#8230; a simple trail that we can walk, stroller, bike, or sit along to enjoy (without a 45-60 mph hour train whizzing by).</p>
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		By: Faina Segal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2020 21:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m am so excited for the possibility of a really robust, clean and reliable transportation system in Santa Cruz County. As a WHS grad and former Cabrillo College and UCSC student, I believe the opportunities this system could bring to our students is worth any amount of investment, but especially so when there are so many state and federal funds set aside for rail projects like this. Systems like the Coast Connect vision that Sally has outlined keep our money in the community because they allow students, our grandparents and all who live and work here a way to get around town with-out gas or a car payment, and means more money for books, activities, food, and living expenses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m am so excited for the possibility of a really robust, clean and reliable transportation system in Santa Cruz County. As a WHS grad and former Cabrillo College and UCSC student, I believe the opportunities this system could bring to our students is worth any amount of investment, but especially so when there are so many state and federal funds set aside for rail projects like this. Systems like the Coast Connect vision that Sally has outlined keep our money in the community because they allow students, our grandparents and all who live and work here a way to get around town with-out gas or a car payment, and means more money for books, activities, food, and living expenses.</p>
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		By: Barry Scott		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2020 18:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Sally, for a refreshingly positive and factual look at how a lightweight electric passenger rail system integrated with Metro service and commuting cyclists can meet everyones&#039; needs with equity and environmental goodness!

The same battery technologies that are used in electric vehicles and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles are being applied to rail transit vehicles today, providing an entirely new line up of rail service options.  A new category of transit vehicles, &quot;rapid streetcars&quot; are easier to board than buses and use less power, and batteries eliminate the need for expensive and ugly overhead wires for power.

People who feel that buses are a better choice for the rail corridor should realize two important elements:  First, a single cross county bus line won&#039;t serve riders better than a fixed-rail route; either way a transfer is required for most trips.  Second, bus service that&#039;s integrated to work with the rail transit backbone may qualify for State Rail Plan funding, and an integrated bus+rail system could grow Metro ridership while bringing in a wider range of funding packages.

Let&#039;s think of how a network of bikes and rail working in sync with Metro can deliver a more powerful punch than any one of them alone, or even the sum of those parts.  With rail + trail + Metro, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Sally, for a refreshingly positive and factual look at how a lightweight electric passenger rail system integrated with Metro service and commuting cyclists can meet everyones&#8217; needs with equity and environmental goodness!</p>
<p>The same battery technologies that are used in electric vehicles and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles are being applied to rail transit vehicles today, providing an entirely new line up of rail service options.  A new category of transit vehicles, &#8220;rapid streetcars&#8221; are easier to board than buses and use less power, and batteries eliminate the need for expensive and ugly overhead wires for power.</p>
<p>People who feel that buses are a better choice for the rail corridor should realize two important elements:  First, a single cross county bus line won&#8217;t serve riders better than a fixed-rail route; either way a transfer is required for most trips.  Second, bus service that&#8217;s integrated to work with the rail transit backbone may qualify for State Rail Plan funding, and an integrated bus+rail system could grow Metro ridership while bringing in a wider range of funding packages.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s think of how a network of bikes and rail working in sync with Metro can deliver a more powerful punch than any one of them alone, or even the sum of those parts.  With rail + trail + Metro, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts!</p>
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